Sigur Rós: Heima (2007) User Reviews

Joining the soul of Icelandic society Sigur Rós – Heima

[jaredmobarak · 9/10 · 9 December 2007]

Simply breathtaking. For a band as atmospheric and deep as Sigur Rós, one could not think of any natural visions worthy to accompany the music. It ends up, though, that you don't have to look too far after all. Just take some time to see the beauty and infinite space right in their own home of Iceland. This documentary, Heima, shows the world one of the last untouched visages in existence. The island country is exotic and devoid of pollution of nature and man. Sigur Rós decided to come back home to do a sixteen-city tour, for free, in order to give back to the community that gave them life. Without the hectic bustle of traveling the entire earth from venue to venue, the band is able to bask in the glory that is home, calm themselves down for a short respite, play the music to their own people, and get nothing out of it except the joy from bringing together an entire country through the sounds they have created. It is a touching story of art and life that simply needs to be seen to be understood.

Sigur Rós' music has always been such a visceral and aural experience for me. It is the kind of work that cleanses my mind from all thought to fully envelope my body and soul as one. If you are ever feeling stressed or unable to cope with something in your life, just put on any of their albums, all are masterpieces. The layers meld together for a wall of sound that takes you over, washing away all your fears, filling you with hope and joy for a future coming towards you; a future that can be battled with the knowledge that you can overcome anything.

I am just overjoyed to finally see a little insight into the artists behind the music. The members of this quartet—along with the foursome of women as their string section—are all soft-spoken, down to earth people. They tell of their inhibitions and inability to do many interviews or press junkets to support them. Not because they are standoffish or uncaring for those who enjoy their sound, the band just wants to lead normal lives out of the spotlight that would overtake them if they bought into the machine. With abrupt cuts to the group having fun with each other, we see the good-natured humor they all have. As one member says, he was 21 when they first started and became a sensation. These men didn't quite know what was in store, and rather than become destructive to themselves and the music, they decided to go in the other direction. More a family than a business, Sigur Rós takes great pride in their work and say that they may even take too much time honing everything to the point of perfection. I myself don't care, because the time spent seems to have worked each and every time.

The visuals that director Dean DeBlois has added to enhance the music are magical. For one, the cities chosen for each concert are amazing and diverse. From concert halls, to giant festival stages, to an abandoned fishing complex, to setting up between a couple country houses, to even in front of a newly created dam in the highlands for a protest show, Heima shows Iceland with an eye of wonderment and unfiltered beauty. To see how the band uses layers of projections and cloth curtains, hearkening to the elaborate cd artwork they hold each album in, helps to explain the detail and perfection really at work. Seeing them play an acoustic show outside a dam they feel ruins the natural landscape of the city, in order to create the electricity they refuse to use, is fantastic. Also, the cut scenes to static shots of the world surrounding them show the country in all its glory. The kites in the air, the juxtaposition of the rundown fishing wharf with black and white footage of the time it once bustled, the mountains shrouded in fog, the ice melting, and the water flowing (forwards and backwards) leave you without words as it all encompasses you into the world of their sound.

All the band members share anecdotes and insight into their motivations and creative process, as well as why they still come home and stay in Iceland despite the notoriety and money they have earned since their first album. Through it all, though, it is the music that shines. True artists, their renditions of songs like Starálfur and Hoppípolla can bring a tear to your eye for their sheer emotion. I loved how they sprinkled in motifs of the band throughout, from the Takk… man to the Ágætis byrjun alien, to the birds flying, silhouetted from the sky. Heima gets to the core of what Sigur Rós and their music is while also showcasing a country that many people may never think twice about. I for one now see that I must visit Iceland at least once before I die to experience its beauty for myself.

Close to being a spiritual experience

[howard.schumann · 9/10 · 27 April 2008]

After completing a 13-month world tour in which they promoted their fourth album, the rock-oriented "Takk", the band Sigur Ros came home to Iceland in the summer of 2006 to give free concerts as a sign of their gratitude to Iceland. Director Dean DeBlois (Lilo and Stich) was there to film them as they toured the stark, almost alien-looking landscape, performing a series of mostly unannounced concerts in a variety of locales throughout the country. There was an abandoned fishing town, a mountain foothill, a camp where locals are protesting the building of a dam, a wilderness outpost, a national park, a community coffee shop, and a large convert venue in Reykjavik which if course had been announced.

The result is a 97-minute documentary called Heima, which means "at home" or "homeland". The film features gorgeous photography of the country's mountains, rivers, valleys, and waterfalls as background for live performances of songs from all four Sigur Ros albums, as well as two two new songs: "Guitardjamm," and "A ferd til Breidarfjardar 1922," performed with poet Steindor Anderson. Though there are interviews in the film with the unassuming band members whose recordings sell in the millions, they are not very revealing. What does come across, however, is their humility, love of nature, and opposition to the exploitation of their land by global corporations. While I would have liked to have learned more about each member, this is not a film about the psychology of the band members or why they have been successful, but a celebration of the group's elegant and hypnotic music and their love letter to the people of Iceland.

Formed in the late 1990's, the band consists of singer-guitarist Jon Thor "Jonsi" Birgisson, bassist Georg "Goggi" Holm, keyboard player Kjartan "Kjarri" Sveinsson and percussionist Orri Pall together with backup musicians. They are distinguished by experimental cutting edge songs lasting between six and thirteen minutes, enhanced by the otherworldly sound of Jonsi's falsetto voice. Their music has been called "glacial", "post-rock" and "transcendent". Whatever the label, their sounds have a way of penetrating your outer shell and reaching deeply into your soul.

Those that came to see the concerts were not the usual excited young people that you might expect at rock concerts, but folks of all ages including families with their children. The band's connection with their audience is very real and the concerts have a feeling of warmth and intimacy. Simply listening to the ethereal music of Sigur Ros is a revelation but seeing them on the big screen performing their music in their native country is a spiritual experience. If you are a lover of Sigur Ros, this is a must see. If you are not, Heima may make you one.

Truly beautiful.

[luthlieneldar · 9/10 · 23 February 2008]

Being a fan of Sigur Rós for a while now, I was incredibly excited for 'Heima.' I didn't know what to expect of it, except that it would be moving, passionate, and that I would love it. It certainly turned out that way. They've succeeded in creating an honest and simple documentary that gave me more respect for them, if that is possible.

This film rotates around a love of music and of Home: Iceland; a simpler place than a lot of us are used to. Sigur Rós tour their home giving free concerts as a way of giving back to the land and people for what they gave them: a place of inspiration and love. They visit the most remote villages, all the way to the largest city in Iceland, Reykjavík, where it looks as if the whole country shows up for the concert.

In between songs, concerts, and interviews (The quartet Amiina also participates in the interviews), there are clips of the country and towns of Iceland. You'll see its mountains, its towns, its fish factories, and its beautiful landscape, which, in my opinion, appropriately fits the music of Sigur Rós.

There isn't too much wasted interview time, rather much of the film is spent on the crowds; their faces and their reaction to the music. My only complaint is that some of my favorite songs weren't played. Still, they couldn't have fit everything into it. There isn't a song by them I don't like, and that's a rare thing from one band. Thank you, Sigur Rós, for allowing the world to have a glimpse of yours.

Iceland and Sigur Ros

[brightoutside · 10/10 · 30 September 2007]

Astonishing landscapes, amazing filming, music of beauty.. I was deeply touched by this movie.. Sigur Ros is a band so special and really talented. Seeing the landscapes of Iceland one can understand how the weather, the scenery, the people, affect their music and the way they write these songs. I think this movie is a must for all fans, as well as for people who don't know Sigur Ros yet. The general idea is that after a long series of tours and international activity, they wanted to get back in Iceland to perform a series of live performances for their own people. The places they chose to play live are unbelievable each one affecting their set and the way they sound. A 10 for me!

Takk Sigur Ros...

[barb_penn · 10/10 · 30 October 2007]

Having been lucky enough to be able to attend the Melbourne Premier of Heima, as well as privileged to see Sigur Ros perform live in the past, I expect Heima to be good, even great...

I didn't expect it to be a night of pure magic.

With the release of Heima, which is part documentary, part live DVD, Sigur Ros have cemented themselves as not influential musicians, but also as artists who have crossed over into the film genre with sublime results.

Heima traces the journey undertaken by Sigur Ros at the end of 2006, following their Takk world tour. As a way of giving something back to their country, as well as to the people of Iceland, they performed a set of free unannounced concerts.

Heima is a beautiful journey through both Iceland and Sigur Ros' return home.

Takk Sigur Ros.... Takk....

The "Citizen Kane" of music documentaries.

[wangotango · 10/10 · 15 December 2007]

An absolute masterpiece...visually astonishing and deeply moving.

The juxtaposition of opposites is seen and heard throughout this film (ex: light and shadow, life and death, motion and stillness, perfection and imperfection, young and old) which suggests the circularity of life. Heima also presents the viewer with an all-encompassing look at the beauty of Iceland as a segment of a much larger picture, Earth.

This film is perfectly accentuated by the music of Sigur Ros as well as the free spirited attitude of the members of their band. Altogether, this film transcends the genre of music documentary (rockumentary) and takes it to an entirely new level with beauty that will bring tears to your eyes.

An incredible musical journey.

[come2whereimfrom · 8/10 · 17 December 2007]

In the summer of 2006 (although you'd never know being in Iceland!) local heroes Sigur Ros returned to their 'Heima' or homeland to put on a series of free and unusual shows. Firstly they wanted to give a gift to the people of Iceland, it seems that very little ever happens in this barren land, and secondly they wanted to take the music back to where it originated. If you have ever heard a Sigur Ros album you will know it's a beautiful, sweeping, moving and often a sparse affair much like the land it came from. It is at times harsh, cold and jarring like the countryside and its elements but at other times it is warm, different and special like the country and its people. With varying crew sizes they play a series of gigs from an abandoned hillside cottage to a dam protest site, a volcanic ash plain and haunting disused fishing factory to name but a few and ending in the most attended show in the country's capital Reykjavik. Peppered with interviews from the bands main and secondary members the film isn't just a live showcase and at times has some startling natural and artistic visuals to accompany the incredible music. Whether you are a fan of the band or just looking to see a great music film you can't go far wrong with this movie it is an audiovisual experience unrivalled in its approach to the band and their roots. I always said that Sigur Ros' music should soundtrack a film and now it does their own.

Compelling portrayal of a country and its most famous band

[Robert_Woodward · 9/10 · 11 March 2008]

The Icelandic band Sigur Ros craft otherworldly songs with lyrics drifting between their native tongue and an invented language called 'Hopelandic.' I have long found their music to be both distinctive and enjoyable but continue to harbour some unresolved feelings about the band. I find their music to be rather less subtle than post-rock contemporaries such as Mogwai and Labradford and cannot help but regard their invented lyrical language with a degree of cynicism. Being an admirer of the band but not exactly their greatest fan, I approached Heima, their feature-length film, with a little trepidation. However, I regard the film as a triumph.'Heima' is an Icelandic word for 'home' and this film is accordingly as much about Iceland as the Sigur Rose, who must surely have surpassed Bjork as their country's most famous musical export. I have myself visited Iceland to view its stunning scenery but was nevertheless left breathless by some of the cinematography in this film. The beautiful landscapes of Iceland serve as the backdrop for many of the band's songs, whilst further footage of desolate lava fields, picturesque villages and mammoth glaciers is interspersed between the performances recorded in live venues and the interviews conducted with individual band-members.Sigur Ros choose some remarkable locations in which to play their music. The band illuminate obscure corners of Iceland, most remarkably when they stage a live performance in a disused factory in an abandoned fishing town. The interviews with the band feature some frank and sometimes-humorous recollections and I found it fascinating to watch the way that Icelandic people reacted to the music being performed.The songs of Sigur Ros and the footage of Iceland combine to make this a film that is much more than a straightforward performance video. This is instead a powerful evocation of Iceland through the eyes and ears of the band. For anyone with a passing interest in Sigur Ros or in Iceland this film will be compelling viewing.

Beautiful Iceland

[Milsans66 · 9/10 · 30 December 2007]

What a country and what a band.....I had the chance to travel to Iceland in September 2007. This DVD is a 'scrapbook' of my trip to Iceland. The music, the people, the food and the feeling of purity.....Everything is there...If it gives some of you the urge to go there...well do it....don't wait...If you are an outdoor lover and a spiritual being...you'll find something out there for you.... Bravo to my Canadian friend who produces this DVD....It does resembles the people, their reserved personalities and their openness to much more. This is a great discovery for me and I thank all of you for offering this as a Xmas present from me to me!

Homeward Bound

[loganx-2 · 7/10 · 9 May 2010]

From the director of "Lilo and Stitch" comes one of the most beautiful music documentaries? I Watched it completely on accident and was totally entranced. Each of the dozen or so performances are done in rural areas, caves, rundown barns, abandoned buildings, coffee shops, a protest at the building of a damn, and only at the end on an actual stage.Sigur Ros had just released their fourth album and finished a world tour when they decided to play a series of free shows across Iceland, largely unannounced until the day of the show.

In the performance at the damn the band decided to play acoustic (since using a generator would be kinda hypocritical while protesting an electric damn) and the wind picks up at the beginning hissing against the cameras without PA to drown out the white noise. But as the song progresses the wind stops and the sounds soar. Spontaneous moments like this or when a dog wanders up walking between the performers, give each song and venue an unpredictable truly "live" feeling. A performance in an abandoned building with only the lead singer on guitar and four of the band's string players seem to echo in the dilapidated building.

The name of the film translates to "At Home", and this is very much a poem to the bands native country and the beauty of it's landscapes both natural and urban. The settings are often of faded places being consumed by nature and time, in a minimalist nature porn that would Andy Goldsworthy proud. Although in the case of the damn, the area of the performance is latter submerged under water, as the urban "blight" consumes the landscape. This visual motif runs through the film, but the performances are far from somber, as the audiences attracted to the shows are a both young and old, music fan and curious onlooker, and whole families. The distance created by the obscure imagery is closed in the same moments by the warm focus placed on the regular people attending the shows. The band also performs with a Icelandic poet, and again with a man who creates a kind of marimba music out of different kind of stones using volcanic rocks, flaky stones form cliff slides, and river rocks to produce different tones.

An Icelandic choir chants beneath a green hill, and we can hear the connection between these chants and the bands general sound (similarities even the band didn't seem to be aware of until filming). Though they have a lead vocalist and voice is very important to their music...how do I say this without it sounding like a gimmick, oh well...the band have no lyrics as such, and sing in a made up glossia language, making melodic sounds that suit the music. As wiki explains it, "Vonlenska is a non-literal language, without fixed syntax, and differs from constructed languages that can be used for communication. It focuses entirely on the sounds of language; lacking grammar, meaning, and even distinct words. Instead, it consists of emotive syllables and phonemes; in effect, Vonlenska uses the melodic and rhythmic elements of singing without the conceptual content of language. In this way, it is similar to the use of scat singing in vocal jazz.

The band's website describes it as "a form of gibberish vocals that fits to the music". Most of the syllable strings sung by Jnr Birgisson are repeated many times throughout each song, and in the case of ( ), throughout the whole album." You can pretend it's just a foreign language if that makes you feel better though. Because there are no words, their music has a blankness and openness to it that gives the listener the ability to project their own thoughts and emotions, without disconnecting from the most immediate instrument that so much instrumental "post rock" can miss; the human voice. Their music is melancholy, grand, triumphant, and intimate at different times, but I wont waste too many words trying to describe it. Words like ambient, glacial, falsetto are used allot in such descriptions, and would be appropriate.

The band is interviewed in between songs, and they are humble and unpretentious. Certain sounds are beautiful and just feel "right", no more, no less. They like playing for people who wouldn't normally see them, and are genuinely pleased that each town greets the shows so warmly. The phrase "this is nice" is used several times by several different members, but you know what? It is nice.

The combinations of sounds, places, and people create a rhythm that "just feels right". Home is where the...etc. I just watched this and while it was still fresh I wanted to recommend it to just about everyone. I'm not a big fan of documentaries about bands in general, so this was a very pleasant surprise. Like listening to the band's recorded music (which I am biased about since I am a fan of the band who are largely responsible for my love of "The Life Aquatic" and apologist view of "Vanilla Sky") this left me with warm fuzzy feelings.

The 90's modern attempts at Woodstock ended in orgies of over-priced water and sexual assaults, so it's nice to see a band somewhere in the world could create free music in intimate venues, that people could appreciate and get behind. Almost everyone appreciated it anyway.

One of the bands grandmothers attended a show, but said it was too loud, and when she found out it was on TV, decided to go home and watch it there.When the concert strobey light and video effects came on in the final climatic moments, she thought her TV was messed up and turned it off. You can't please everyone.

A stunning introduction to a band and their home-country

[Gareth_Hacking · 8/10 · 11 March 2008]

Having attended a one-off screening at the Manchester Cornerhouse, I can safely say that this film is visually and sonically stunning. The documentary chronicles Sigur Ros' 2006 free tour of Iceland, with every song introducing you to a different corner and aspect of Iceland. Each filmed performance takes place in a different location, from abandoned villages to massive open air concerts. And what performances they are!

Interceded throughout are interviews with the band, their support string section - Amiina and in one memorable instance, a man who constructs musical instruments from rocks. They all come across as a thoroughly likable group who have a deep love for their home-country. This film serves as both a wonderful introduction to Sigur Ros and their music as well as a great advert for Iceland.

Elevating the music DVD to a legitimate Art.

[Tippy_Cup · 10/10 · 26 July 2008]

The music Home Video has been around for a while now. A couple of older ones that come to mind are 'The Dead Kennedys-The Early Years' and 'Panteras-3 Vulgar Videos From Hell' (which is a collection of their three home videos. There's also 'koRn's-Who Then Now', and whilst I'm not really into korn anymore, back in high school....I watched this a lot. lol.

There are also live releases, from pink floyd, or from festivals like, the sounds from the underground DVD's.

The home videos are more about, day to day life of the bands, how they got together, it shows the bandmembers personalities etc etc. And the live releases are usually live shows, with video tour diary segments spliced in between.

Some bands on the other hand just have DVD releases which are just slapped together. There're just MEHHH basically. But with Heima, Sigur Ros' add the music DVD as the 4th (true) artistic output bands have. So there's the LIVE show, the album (as a whole album, and inclusive of the artwork), the videoclips (even though only a few bands really make artistic clips), and now the music DVD.

Heima is a beautiful film in it's own right. Not just changing between clips of Sigur Ros' playing live, and shots of Iceland at random. But thoughtfully and meticulously planned out, the visuals heighten the already extreme emotions that Sigur Ros bring about through their music.

For fans and n00bs alike. Heima should be seen by all.

10/10

Love Iceland

[supersoper · 10/10 · 18 April 2009]

I felt like I was there with the band through the whole movie--not in a theater. This is not only a cool sensation, but it makes the viewer feel like they are really connected to Iceland, and to all the people there. I think the format of the film is deceptively simple--I mean, there's no narrator to tell you what to think. But then this allows you to learn to love Iceland and its people and the band as much as you can without actually living there. I think the band is saying, "Here's our home. We hope you love it as much as we do." And the combination of music and landscape and small towns is a way to say this with very few words at all.

Something Personal.

[The_Dman313 · 9/10 · 1 January 2019]

I will try my hardest to find words to critique this film, but quite frankly "Heima" is one that almost lacks the ability to be analyzed. Instead, and the true beauty of it, is that it exists almost solely as an subjective experience. No 2 people can possibly view this film the same way. Each sequence, communicated as an encompassed feeling of the moment, is guided by your own impulses and tastes. I find that you put something of yourself into it, as these filmed moments start to feel as if something of your own memories.

I will however attempt to state what I had liked about this film, and why it had hit me as something unique. One reason is that the entirety of the film harnessed the purity that it is music, and the instant emotion that comes as a result. They do this first through their editing. It all seems to move with the present feeling, as it lingers at soft moments and intensifies with the added energy of speed. Each song is then accompanied by a different place, each one altering the sound of the song being performed and the performance by the band members themselves. It was in these moments that the beautifully executed cinematography hit me, as it made me sense the presence of the environment of each varying place. This made it feel as if I was there at the concert, and that itself was a journey to me. Past midnight at my house, when I first experienced this film on New Years, it all felt like I was on my own transcendent vacation, one that I've yet to experience.

Something that this film managed to communicate to me was a love for people. Within each crowd is a face the film writes, and each face harnesses something of a diverse experience. Like us, each person is viewing this event differently. We see this through the unfocused children running around and playing, who don't yet know how much this experience might mean to them. To the elderly audience members, watching it with unblinking concentration, aware of the rarity that such beautiful moments will penetrate their lives again. I reveled in the individualism of the crowd, and connected to the beauty that is one's own experience of life.

In conclusion, this is the type of film that you slip into on a lazy Sunday afternoon, and in the process experience something far more transcendent than normal life. It's one that hit me on a personal level, and I hope that everyone reading will soon be able to experience something as beautiful as this film. Whatever that may be.

Music Meets Nature!

[furtive_desire · 10/10 · 14 June 2008]

Heima is Bliss! I have no words to describe the beauty of this movie. Compelling landscapes and music straight from heaven.

There was a singer named as "Tansen" in the "Akbar the great's" era whose singing could light lamps and cause rain. Jón Þór Birgisson is no doubt the reincarnated form of Tansen.

I was totally spellbound by the music and the nature and the simplicity of the band members.Its a movie that will make you feel so peaceful and happy from the inside. A masterpiece in which Nature and Music speak for each other.

10/10

The Changing Face Of Rock Documentaries (or,Rock Docs)

[Seamus2829 · 10/10 · 20 December 2008]

When Sigur Ros finished up a world tour in 2007,they chose to play a series of free concerts in their homeland of Iceland (hence the title, 'Heima',or home land in Icelandic). This documentary follows their concert tour in various parts of the country. Framed against the rugged,but unspoiled & beautiful Icelandic countryside, 'Heima' is an absolute joy to watch,as well as listen to. Sigur Ros's music reminds one at times of pre-'Dark Side Of The Moon' era Pink Floyd (say,between Ummagumma & Meddle),with their use of spacey,sparse sound & high falsetto lyrics (sung in Icelandic,unfortunately without subtitles,but don't let that keep you from checking them out). This film has been described by some as a spiritual experience. It's more than obvious that the Sugarcubes aren't the only import from Iceland to make an impact outside their home country. No MPAA rating,but does contain a rude word or two during the interview sequences,but otherwise nothing to offend.

A movie closest to my heart.

[ashishnav1989 · 10/10 · 7 May 2012]

Before I say anything about the movie, let me tell you about myself a bit, I'm an undergrad student about to graduate in a few days. In past 4 yrs I have watched hundreds of movies. Before watching any movie, I would check it out here, read various blogs about it . You see, I have been very selective about the movies I watch.

But for Heima, I did nothing. I just watched it and not just once but a hell lot of times. Those who have listened to and follow Sigur Rós are a lucky bunch of guys. For them this movie is more than just a must watch.

For those who haven't yet heard Sigur Rós, well I'm sorry for you but there is still time and hope. Just watch this movie now to know Sigur Rós.

This movie is one of the purest piece of art - visually, musically and emotionally. It connects with you at every level. The way it captures the essences of life with its exquisitely shot visuals and perfect music of Sigur Rós, it makes me make watch it again and again and each time I watch it, it does something to my brain, I don't know what but something good.

The way of narration, all the interviews, the performances and the story behind each performance...all of them strikes a chord with you instantly. Its just so pure, I find it impossible to figure out any flaws and frankly every time the movie ends, I'm in tears.

I have given quite a few 10/10's but this movie deserves more than that or rather this piece of art deserves much more than the ratings, it deserves everyone's attention and appreciation and I hope you give that :)

Definitive Look at Iceland and Sigur Rós

[skinnymanny · 10/10 · 16 March 2017]

I can't imagine a better music documentary. It shows Sigur Rós and Amiina (the string section and a fine group in their own right) on a tour of Iceland in 2006. Fantastic performances and a honest portrayal of the Icelandic people and country. The two-disc set has additional complete performances that are excellent, even transcendent at times. The music of Sigur Rós may not be for all tastes, but the stunning visuals make this a very watchable experience for almost everyone.

Enchanting

[GabrielSymes · 9/10 · 28 August 2022]

If you are slightly interested in or enjoy the music of Sigur Rós you will love this. If you enjoy mournful music that connects with nature, you'll love this. This is not Spinal Tap, it is proper grown up art. Post-rock, whetever that is, in that they overlay textures and sounds over traditional rock chords to paint sonic images of Icelandic geology and geography. Personally, I can probably manage no more than one Sigur Rós song a day, before finding a need to plug my brain into the mains to wake it up a bit. It can be a bit depressing, a bit intense. There's no humour, everything is taken very seriously. If you like that kind of performance, then I guess that's you. I personally enjoy entertainment, and this is not it. But I can still recognise the passion and professionalism here. Maybe one day I'll find a need to spin up a whole Sigur Rós album, but that day is not today.