What We Do Is Secret (2007) User Reviews

very mixed bag; watch it for the performances, and one or two things

[Quinoa1984 · 6/10 · 2 December 2008]

It's simply this: Shane West, as a singer and performer of Germs songs as Darby Crash in What We Do is Secret, works fine. In the 1/4 of the film where the filmmakers turned their attention to the on-stage performances for the film (or one-time album recording), West does very good work, so good in fact one may be tempted to revisit just those aggressive and loud and messy and amazingly crude songs when the film is broadcast on a loop on IFC (you know it will be). And yet, for all of West's feracity in the part as the singer, when he has to *act* as Darby Crash, it's at best halfway believable and at worst very stupid.

There is a resemblance, somewhere, between West- who previously appeared in such films as, yes, A Walk to Remember- and the grimy and death-by-junk singer who had a real intelligence and some crazy ideas. But at the same time West also looks and sounds and sometimes emotes just like what he is: a good but definite pretty boy. Darby Crash was many things, but a pretty boy assuredly not. And because the writing means to try its damndest to put a lot of the emotional weight on Crash, many moments (though not all) with West as Crash fall flat. Thankfully, by the third act, he isn't as irksome, and it almost turns into a halfway decent portrayal of such a true cult figure (cult in the literal sense perhaps).

And yet I can't put all blame on West, or even for the other competent-to-good-to-not-so-good supporting actors playing other members of the Germs. It's the first-time writer/director Rodger Grossman, who hasn't quite figured out at times how to be very confident with the camera, and at best is most daring (in somewhat predictable ways) during the musical sequences and perhaps one shot where a pool is reflected. The rest is a lot of rote work as far as the dramatic stuff goes - when it comes to the "iterviews" done with the people in the band, the groupies, the b-word "manager/girlfriend/mother" of Darby Crash, they fare much better. Indeed if Grossman had been more decisive with how to take the direction of the film (as a documentary done with actors filling in the parts and going through actual things they may or may not have said), it would have worked better either way as gritty bio-pic or bittersweet pseudo-documentary.

I probably sound harder on this movie than the actual vote/rating would say. Maybe it's because as a big fan of The Germs I was slightly more forgiving than other people may be. For the uninitiated it definitely gives a precisely strange and f***-ed up idea of who Crash was and how he drifted into heroin. And as well the uninitiated will find that it stinks. It's for die-hards only.

Punk stardom: nasty, brutish, and short

[Chris Knipp · 6/10 · 2 September 2008]

Last year there was an accomplished little film called Control by Anton Corbijn starring Samantha Morton, Sam Riley, Alexandra Maria Lara, et al., with beautiful black and white images of England evoking the short life of Ian Curtis, the lead singer of Joy Division, an English rock group of the 80's. This is the same thing, only the singer and the group, "legendary" and "seminal" though they may be among followers of punk, are less remembered among music fans, and the extent of the legend hardly becomes clear in this version. The focus is a lead singer who runs a group called The Germs. The film-making, which mixes dramatized sequences with fake documentary interviews, seeks to evoke the LA punk scene of the late 70's and early 80's. The scene and the film are sloppier, the concert sequences are more violent and less musical, the characters are less defined, and the ending is sudden. Yet in the opinion of some fans, it's not violent or sloppy enough, and one can see their point.

The lead singer in question, played by the successful TV actor Shane West, is a professed Fascist, though anarchy seems more his style, who takes on the name Darby Crash. He has been expelled from a special high school whose teachers proclaim him ungovernable but brilliant. He gives other band members names like Lorna Doom (Bijou Phillips) and Pat Smear (Rick Gonzalez). Gonzales has wonderful cheekbones, but never seems like a punker. Darby tells a French interviewer that he has a five-year plan--indication of his ambition but also a hint that his days are intentionally numbered. He's giving himself that long to make it big; perhaps also that long to live? So it went, anyway. At some point he seems to have said to the band they'd be as big as the Beatles. Ironically, he offed himself the night John Lennon was shot. In a late sequence Darby's cohorts mourn Lennon as they watch reports on TV of his death, while the scene cuts back and forth to their lead singer, alone with a girl groupie pledged to go out with him, deliberately overdosing.

This movie may awaken nostalgia or longing in those who wish life were crazier than it is now. The LA punk scene was a time of true mayhem, which is conveyed here even if the styles and interactions don't always quite fit the period. The group is assembled haphazardly including two girls recruited on the basis that they should have no talent and not be able to play an instrument. The Germs began to play without knowledge of the rudiments of music or their axes and their energy grew out of the outrage of the audience, which itself seemed more in search of violence and anger than art from the stage. This was a time of "joke bands," set up with some gimmick, like a male lead singer wearing a dress, and wailing laments that were not taken seriously by the band. The Germs were more serious, insofar as their leader cut himself and bled in public. The aim was to risk everything, and The Germs got banned from one music venue after another. At one point they stage a comeback by changing their name to "GI," for "Germs Incognito." They have trouble finding a drummer and run through nine. The one who sticks is a guy from Arizona who calls himself Don Bolles (Noah Segan). Segan has a wide-eyed eagerness and energy that, faute de mieux, has to pass for Bolles' personality. A homosexual relationship seems to develop between a certain Robby Henley (Ashton Holmes), who hero-worships Darby, but maybe he just wants to be in the band. Later he replaces Bolles as drummer through a violent misunderstanding. A woman called Amber (Missy Doty) becomes manager, over someone else, by virtue of paying for Darby's and the others' drinks and drugs.

Briefly Penelope Spheeris becomes a character, shown working with a big movie camera on her film, The Decline of Western Civilization--a reminder that this is a scene that has been well documented. This is a fictionalized recreation, with documentary touches. In that respect more than Control it resembles Fulton and Pepe's 2005 Brothers of the Head, which cunningly presents multiple forms of fake footage for an invented Siamese twin punk band. But both of those deserve higher ratings than What We Do Is Secret, though some may value the raw crudity of the concert sequences here, rarely recreated with such ferocity.

The movie is less successful, indeed makes little effort, at showing how The Germs interacted with and influenced, or were influenced by, other punk bands of the time; and in detailing the personalities involved; or specific songs. Datelines indicate times and venues of main Germs concerts, and the making of an album is briefly sketched in. But concerts are represented by one partial, ill-defined song each. Contrast Control where some concerts get extended sequences, and songs come through to even an uninformed viewer. Here, the atmosphere outside of violent clashes between people, boasting by Darby, and the in-your-face nosh pit concert scenes, is not really that punk. The clothes and manners could be any beatnik hippie depressed young folk of the last fifty years, and the effort to define a moment through a key group and voice is a failure.

Jan Paul Beahm (September 26, 1958 – December 6, 1980)

[hitchcockthelegend · 6/10 · 25 May 2010]

Who? Well quite, and that may well be the problem for any casual movie fan who happens to like musical bio-pictures. Jan Paul Beahm during his short run for fame was better known as Darby Crash, lead singer and founding member of Los Angeles punk band The Germs. Firmly picking up on the punk ethic for doing it yourself, Crash and his band made waves across L.A. for a short period of time. Much like The Sex Pistols back in the UK, The Germs were blighted by being unable to play venues as their reputation preceded them. With Crash growing ever more erratic as he tried to execute the various strands of his so called 5 year plan, those around him invariably suffered. Here director Rodger Grossman attempts to tell the "true" story of the life and death of an enigmatic young man on a "crash" course to oblivion.

With low production values and a choppy attempt at being a semi rockumentary, What We Do Is secret is really only of interest to fans of the band or those wishing to bone up on American punk rock circa 1976-1980. Even tho myself, an ageing old British punker, quite liked The Germs, this film only exists because of two major factors. For the facts are that outside of L.A. they were hardly known at the time. It's only because of Crash's subsequent suicide at a young age {on the day John Lennon was shot and killed} and guitarist Pat Smear's future involvement with Nirvana and the Foo Fighters, that the band have had a reappraisal. With minimal input cut onto disc, one has to wonder if someone is trying to build up a legend that doesn't actually exist? What can be said with confidence is that the film at least brings the L.A. punk scene to notice. With all the historical talk about the New York punk scene that was born out of CBGB'S and Max's Kansas City, it often gets forgotten that L.A. had its moments too.

The cast here are pretty much the run of the mill performers one expects from such a production. Ranging from adequate (Shane West as Crash) to very decent (Rick Gonzalez of Coach Carter fame as Smear), Grossman's film will not be remembered for any great thesping. And since Crash is not very likable, or engaging on an intellectual level, the finale is unlikely to strike you with a sadness born out of the waste of a young life. However, the soundtrack crackles with punk vibrancy and emotive potency, and definitely some of the concert sequences have the look and feel of the original punk rock era. But ultimately the piece remains only worth an interest to an undemanding and small selection of music fans. Oh and 70s fashion guru's as well one thinks. 5.5/10

Here is some of what happened, politely presented.

[goodellaa · 7/10 · 31 August 2008]

Perhaps the be-all dramatization of this place and time is yet to be made, but this is worth seeing. The writer-director was engaged in this labor of love for so long there is hope that the research (first-hand) was thorough enough so that it is not based on rumors and wishful thinking. If it seems a little neat and well defined, we can partly blame the budget. This picture just barely got made. It will not flesh out your drug-addled memories of Sunset Boulevard and may not have any characters based on people you knew. Too bad. You probably just had to be there. If you want just a taste of what it must have been like, it is here, especially the performances (nice job, The Bronx). Given its limitations, it is pretty OK. Also you can let your kids watch it. Nothing too horrible, or at least nothing that isn't going on in every major city all the time. This movie will play well on DVD, improves on second viewing and tells basically how a particular time and place gave rise, very briefly, to THE GERMS. If the survivors aren't complaining, I'm sure not. I'm glad this movie got made. O save me from nostalgia.

Eh...

[EnjoyablePresence · 6/10 · 19 January 2017]

I'm a lifelong Germs fan. I loved the biography on Darby and was very excited to see this film. If you're a fan of the band, it is kind of cool to see them on screen doing their thing (not much video exists of the band so I'm used to articles and pictures). But overall, I did not enjoy it.

Unlike Sid and Nancy there are no memorable scenes and the film does not use music well. I challenge you to watch this and years later recall a scene as vividly as the "walking through the glass" scene in Sid and Nancy. Darby's inner struggles could have been explored in a fascinating way. They were not. This is just a basic run down of what the band looked like and where they hung out. I can't see any reason why anyone who isn't a huge Germs fan might enjoy this film. At the end a poem is read which Darby had written as a young teenager, but the actor messes up Darby's words. Appropriate.

Enjoyed It and I'm a Geezer ****Minor Spoiler****

[Temprock14 · 7/10 · 27 April 2008]

Saw it at the Philly Film Festival. Shane and the director were present.

Though I'm a rock music fan, I had been completely unfamiliar with 1980s "punk", the scene, Darby Crash and/or The Germs (either incarnation).

That being confessed, the movie as all good films do puts us in that world, tries to indoctrinate us as to its "rules" and this allowed me to kick back and experience it vicariously and enjoyably.

I enjoyed Shane West very much in his TV roles (Once and Again and ER) and his emerging talent for the "big screen" as both an Actor and Musician was obvious from this film.

He was presented an award on the evening I saw this film at the Philly Film Festival as and "Up and Coming Actor (or something) and the award seems fitting.

I suspect few people over 45 will enjoy this film as much as I did but I still recommend it to those seeking under-the-radar pleasures, grim though they may be.

Are you guys kidding?

[jmd26_0 · 1/10 · 24 August 2008]

I'm sorry but this movie is awful. Very surface, poorly made, badly acted- a major disappointment. Shane West is passable, but almost everyone else in the film is bad.

And the script- they have taken the seedy, turbulent life of Darby Crash and turned it into an after school special. Actually, after school specials were more interesting than this.

I am shocked that Pat Smear and the other surviving members of The Germs would have anything to do with this film. It makes them all seem one dimensional and uninteresting. Stick with Penelope Spheeris' great documentary THE DECLINE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION- it will have to do until a better Germs biopic comes along.

"I'm a lexicon devil with a battered brain"

[joshua-nash84 · 10/10 · 2 November 2011]

Rising out of the chaotic, drug fueled punk scene of Los Angeles the Germs while only active for from 1977 to 1980 became a band who transformed the face of punk rock. This film retells the rise and fall of this great band who's impact and influence is still felt today.

What We Do Is Secret starts out with Darby Crash being interviewed by a European journalist about his 5 year plan. This 5 year plan could either be one of pure cockiness or did Darby believe that his days were numbered? All we're told is that the plan was inspired by the David Bowie song "Five Years" Throughout the film we see the band fail to get club bookings due to the violent, anarchistic nature of their performances (even though Crash thought of himself as being a fascist), the descent in heroin addiction and a rather hilarious interview segment on Rodney Bingenheimers radio show. During the final 10 minutes of the film the Germs play their final show after which Darby is shown to be in a rather helpless state. Darby crosses path with Casey Cola and the two of them form a suicide a pact. Darby was found dead a day before the assassination of John Lennon.

Taking on the hard job of playing the punk icon Darby Crash is Shane West who is absolutely stellar in this role. Often at battle with himself (weak/strong, gentle/aggressive) West portrays crash as the intelligent and cocky young man full of self hatred in such a convincing manner. Following this film West went on to became the front man of the recently united Germs.

Bijou Phillips puts in one of her greatest efforts as Germs bassist Lorna Doom (even playing bass on the films soundtrack-with West providing vocals) Rick Gonzalez (Pat Smear) and Noah Segan (Don Bolles) put in equally effective performances. The gritty nasty underbelly of this scene is introduced to us by the cast of misfits, addicts and enablers who I'm thankful are behind the TV screen.

What I particularly liked about this film is that it didn't gloss over the fact that Darby Crash was a homosexual. The scene in which Darby is sitting in his bedroom, chest cut open wide with Rob Henley is a beautiful one. Throughout the film we see the nature of their relationship and Henley's desire to become the Germs drummer even though he doesn't have a single bit of musical talent. The punk scene of the 1970s was never one that accepted homosexuality so I found it fantastic that this important part of the story wasn't tossed aside.

The soundtrack to this film is wonderful and features the music of David Bowie (2 Ziggy Stardust era songs), Alice Cooper, X and Shane West, Bijou Phillips, Lucas Haas and Micheal Le Blanc recreating the music of the Germs. The Germs contributed to this soundtrack with new recordings of the classics with Shane West on vocals.

Darby Crash became a victim of his own creation.

Someone beat me to the "After School Special" metaphor!

[scarletminded · 1/10 · 2 August 2010]

This movie has about as much spirit as an After-School Special. It was like MTV made a "punk" movie that they thought younger viewers would like, as opposed to making this a real documentary about the Germs. It would have been great to have watched video and photos of the band, along with new interviews with Pat Smear, Lorna Doom, etc, since many people in this circle are still alive.

The acting is really bad, but I am not sure if that is the actors fault. Some people, like the Germs manager Nicole Panter, aren't even seen in this movie, it is like facts are picked and chosen and some thrown out altogether. I couldn't get the feel of the movie, it is like it wanted to be just a biopic with younger actors (to appeal to the kids!) but then also had a mock documentary within it that made no scene, where the actors talk about Darby Crash.

On top of this, I had to look up information about the Germs after the movie was done, because this film gave me next to no real information. It was all form and no substance. It tried to be funny a few times, trying to put subtitles under a guy who the band members couldn't understand, but it was easy to understand them, so maybe "the kids" nowadays laugh at this and it passes for entertainment for those young vapid souls that like The Hills and want to dress up like Hot Topic punks someday.

Plus, it made Darby Crash seem like an intellectual with a plan and a Nietzsche book (apparently the only book he ever read, if you watch the movie, that is the feeling I got). And he wrote very bad poetry that passes as something political and deep. The whole movie comes off vapid and pointless. I hoped more for it. By the end of the film, you really don't care why Darby Crash committed suicide, the movie never gives enough depth to it. It's like watching pretty colors for 90 minutes and nothing more.

Liked it a lot.

[smi6712-1 · 9/10 · 6 August 2008]

Didn't really want to see this movie because I wasn't part of the punk scene in the 70s. Went with a friend who was really into it back in the day. Darby Crash had this 5 yr. plan that he was going to start a band (the Germs) and that he would be famous one day. Except no one in the band knew how to play any musical instruments. How ballsy was that?! They end up becoming famous for their music, the crazy things they do on stage (Darby cuts himself) and the rioting that used to happen in the audience.

Lot of drugs in the movie but in the end you see thats what led to Darby's suicide. My friend told me that the band go on to be a famous LA punk group.

The actor who played Darby (the lead singer who formed the band)really did a great job. At the beginning of the movie I didn't know if it was the "real" Darby talking about the past or the actor. Bijou Philips was great too. She was a guitar player who seemed to be the heart of the band.

Cool movie. One of those that your not sure about but walk out after seeing it and glad you did.

Waste

[mugwug · 4/10 · 11 January 2009]

This coulda been good but it was pretty awful. Bad acting by most of the cast, poor direction and the sound was crappy (although the crowd noises during the concert scenes sounded real). I am not a fan of the Germs and although I do respect what they tried to do but this seemed like a whole lot of nothing. If this was an accurate portrayal of Darby Crash I do not think he is deserving of a biopic that makes him out to be an original innovator. He was a Iggy Pop wannabe and then an Adam Ant poser. It was embarrassing; I could not wait for him to OD so the film would be over. The majority of the songs performed in concert were awful.

Hope one day someone does a good film about the West Coast Punk scene. Maybe a film about SST records and the bands who recorded for them would be good.

Trainwreck, absolute rubbish and hopes dashed . . .

[jcm800 · 3/10 · 23 January 2009]

I was excited to see this title showing up on Netflix and I promptly rented it. I knew the movie was being made after reading some articles on various music related web sites that referenced it. I was always curious about Darby because I grew up in the late 70's and early 80's and I saw and read about him in many magazines I read at the time. I was an angst filled teenager in 1977 and I followed many of the punk bands that were born in the Los Angeles/San Francisco scene. I was also a skateboard freak at the time as were a lot of the punks.

I was never a big Germs fan thinking back. I had the album "The Decline Of Western Civilization" when it came out back then and I thought the Germs portion of the record was cool, but I was more of a Circle Jerks, Black Flag kind of guy. I respected the Germs contribution of course and I was amused by Darby's antics, but he always struck me as a Sid Vicious wannabe. I did the same thing. Sid was our hero, don't ask me why. Maybe it was because he was more the anti-hero.

Anyway, back to the movie. I have a lot of fond memories of the era and I thought this would be a nice trip down memory lane. I was mistaken. The actors were absolutely cartoonish to the point of laughable. The Darby actor was the only realistic character in the film to my mind, and that's being kind. The Claude Bessy was horrible and the Rodney Bingenheimer was atrocious. I mean Rodney is kinda weird anyway, but this portrayal made me groan OUT LOUD at how bad it was. Come to think of it, the whole movie sucked so much ass that I kept fighting the impulse to turn it off. Shameful and terrible film with the only good thing in the movie being some of the music.

If you want Germs info, read the books Lexicon Devil and We Got The Neutron Bomb and watch the Decline movie on Google.

Nietzsche the punk

[Michael-d-duncan · 8/10 · 13 June 2010]

The ascension of The Germs was more of a local buzz of fans obsessed with seeing a self-fatal maniac cut himself on stage and snarl into a cheap mic. I used to be a huge Germs fan, not so much any longer, nevertheless, The film follows Darby's persistent nihilistic struggles as he moves forward with The Germs. I was terrified that this would be a simple boring chronicle with a fade to black at the end with a little blurb about what they're doing now. But I was confronted with a film that bridged an interesting gap between documentary and narrative film. The acting is suburb and the film is easy to watch and mostly accurate, which is surprising! Most 'punk' films are obsessed with a hard and fast sound track filled with the heavy hitting punk bands. This one however sticks mostly with Germs tunes, but fills the void with Bowie (one of Darby's favs) and some fear (they're playing at a club). The film-makers made excellent choices to keep the sound track in a supporting role and let Darby really take the lead, just as his did in the band.

Darby, for me, always summed up the punk world view, which is really angry nihilism (talk about irony)and I think this conflict is what he is ultimately struggling against, and also the reason that Punk as a 'movement' is self-defeating. Darby, as a character, is deep. And is artfully played. In the end, I suppose he would have made Nietzsche proud, Darby the anti-hero, the result of aspiring to the role of Übermensch. He found however, the bleak truth behind that famous graffiti, God is dead ~Nietzsche, Nietzsche is dead ~God.

i heard the book was at least good.

[iamnessie · 1/10 · 2 December 2008]

It's really hard for me to rate this film. i didn't like it at all. Yet i still kept wanted to watch it.

Even though it's a true story, all of the characters were like stereotypes. The British guy, the french guy, etc. So the acting was terrible, especially by the girl who played Amber. Shane West was really annoying. If that's how Darby really was, then i am not missing out on not listening to their music. He seemed like a pretentious attention whore who tried standing out just to get attention. And it showed a few of his phases where he changed his way of dressing and being. He never seemed like an original guy so i have no idea why he was so loved. If it was the stage show, Iggy Pop did much more than Darby. But Shane West always had this cocky smirk on his face even when he was trying to look sad. He was great at crying though! The Bronx as Black Flag was cool.

The direction was pretty great. Except a few of the scenes you could tell were staged and didn't feel organic or real. Like when they were shooting up, they were in a conveniently lit spot just for them.

i grew up listening to punk bands but never The Germs. i didn't even know who they were until a friend mentioned them. So i'm not biased when it comes to them and am not a fan. The movie was a 'meh' for me. i definitely didn't like the music. This movie is more for fans than people interested in movies. If you want to see a good indie biopic, see Control about Ian Curtis of Joy Division.

Great depiction

[tuxedowrath · 10/10 · 21 November 2008]

This movie was great, both to inform people who care to learn, and people who are already interested in the subject and punks in general. I read a comment in here that said this movie was too "clean" and that punks were "scum and proud". If this is a reason to dislike this movie then you obviously are not seeing things how you're supposed to. The whole mind set of punks is being themselves and being individual because they feel that's what is right. In their minds they're not doing anything wrong; in their minds, they were the ones who were truly clean, where as the high and mighty assholes of society living their fake lives were the ones who were scum and proud. This film is through the viewpoint of the punks, to better relate to them. Keep that in mind when watching this film, it isn't like every other punk movie spat out by the media to show how outrageous and unethical punk is, whoring it like it's some kind of circus act, if you're looking for that in a punk movie, you're missing the point and should steer clear of this film.

I'm still waiting for an explanation of why this story needed to be told

[MBunge · 4/10 · 22 October 2010]

A movie biography has two distinct challenges. It must be a well made film and it also has to make the audience understand what was significant or noteworthy about its subject. What We Do Is Secret succeeds at the former and fails at the latter, producing a motion picture that's as much an obscure curiosity as the characters it focuses on.

Set in the punk rock scene of late 1970s Los Angeles, this story is about the bold, tormented and ultimately used up Darby Crash (Shane West) and a band he led called The Germs. Darby formed the band as an expression of his contempt for the world and everything in it. He started it before he or any of his band mates could play their instruments, simultaneously lashing out at the expectations of the audience while mocking the band's own pretensions at significance. The movie follows the fairly predictable course of showing the bands ignoble beginnings, their rise to success and then the excesses that led them to destruction, but setting the tale within the subculture of late 70s punk rock gives it a slightly different sensibility. Inside that world, audacious and intemperate failure was prized more than triumph, self-abasement became a form of self-glorification and anti-social behavior became normality.

But while What We Do Is Secret recounts the history of Darby Crash and The Germs quite effectively and gives us a peek inside the musical/cultural community in which they rose and fell…it does absolutely nothing to explain why any of it matters. It provides virtually no context for what punk rock was railing against and no indication of what was meaningful about it's anger and resentment. So the film is constantly giving the viewer these long reenactments of supposedly important moments of Darby and his band, but they have no weight or depth to them. Unless you're already a full fledged fan of The Germs, you're left to wonder what's the point of it all.

That's especially problematic for a story about punk rock because both punks and their music are fairly unpleasant. In fact, being unpleasant was sort of the whole point. Punk rock was a musical and behavioral eruption against the pop songs and popular culture of its day. However, this film never lets you see or hear any of the world outside the punk ecosystem, robbing Darby and The Germs of the ability to shock and provoke they so desperately sought. Late 70s punks aren't that controversial or unsettling when seen and heard with early 21st century eyes and ears, largely because the most powerful and palatable aspects of the sound and lifestyle have been absorbed by broader society.

Shane West does a good job as Darby Crash, projecting a convincing intelligence and arrogance that masked self-loathing. The best part of the performance isn't how he portrays Darby's conflict over his own homosexuality. It's how he shows Darby becoming the prisoner of his own design. He launches himself like a rage-fueled missile against society but as his rage dissipates, as all rage does, he doesn't know how to change his trajectory. Eventually, Darby can't and doesn't want to live the life he's crafted for himself and he has no idea how to stop or change it. West channels that helplessness almost every time he's on screen.

The rest of the cast is okay, though they're given little to do except for a rather poorly defined struggle for control between the drummer for The Germs and Darby's not-really-gay boyfriend. There's a passel of name dropping from the 1970s LA music scene, with only the brief appearances of Joan Jett and Belinda Carlise registering for anyone who wasn't living in Los Angeles in at that time.

Darby Crash eventually committed suicide. His death was overlooked because he killed himself on the same night that John Lennon was murdered. What We Do Is Secret won't make anyone question the justice or appropriateness of that. It doesn't tell us anything about the man, his band or his time that needs to be remembered or mourned, particularly when compared to the tragic end of one of the greatest cultural figures of the second half of the 20th century. No matter how well you tell a story, if it ends with no one understanding why it had to be told, it can only be considered a failure.

Middle aged punk rockers who remember The Germs might get a kick out of this movie. There's no point it anyone else watching it.

Don't waste your time or money on this movie.

[tom_tirrell-1 · 1/10 · 21 November 2008]

just saw the movie, and after viewing it i must say i found it to be utter garbage. What a typical Hollywood fluff piece. This film is a disgrace to the memory of Darby Crash and The Germs. If anyone wants a good insight into the Germs, please read the book, Lexicon Devil, The Fast Times and Short Life of Darby Crash. Shame on you Roger Grossman, Shame on you Michelle Baer Ghaffari for making this mockery of a film about the

greatest punk rocker, and greatest punk band there ever was.

To Shane West, stop living on the coat tails of the late Darby Crash. You are NOT Darby Crash, nor will you EVER be Darby Crash, so stop pretending to BE Darby Crash. Stick with acting. In my opinion, The Germs,(as a band), died when Darby died. For the remaining Germs to be out touring with Shane West as the singer is nothing short of appalling and disgraceful. RIP Darby, your true memory lives on in your music and in the hearts and minds of those that loved you.

Just saw the movie in Westwood and it was great!!!!

[ericsamaritan · 10/10 · 25 June 2007]

I just saw the Germs movie "What We Do Is Secret" in Westwood and it was awesome. The director and several of the actors were on hand which was cool. The music and lyrics of The Germs were a major part of my adolescent years in the early 80's. Usually rock n'roll bio pics just plain suck (they always do on VH1) and I was worried about this movie sucking since I am a huge Germs fan. It didn't suck, it ROCKED! The music was great. The acting was really well done. The directing was tight. The movie was paced well and it did a great job telling the story of a misunderstood band and it's front man, Darby Crash. This movie was obviously written and directed by someone who loved the Germs and it showed.

Hats off to the cast and crew for a job well done!!!!!

confusing yet beautiful

[earth_angel196 · 8/10 · 7 January 2009]

Darby Crash wasn't much of a singer, but from what I understood from the movie he was a great philosopher. His lyrics, his thoughts, his individuality made him stand out and I think that's what drew people to him. But at the same time he knew what the audience wanted and he gave it to them at almost any cost. It's truly a tragic story.

Shane West in my opinion did a excellent job, I've seen a few of his films before, so for this one it was a complete transformation for him. You could feel the struggle and see the pain in his eyes as he tried to figure out his life and at the same time was sinking in to deep.

This film ignited an interest in me, to learn more about the infamous Derby Crash, the man behind the Germs, the man who simple saw what he wanted and took it without trying, but once he had it, it became too much.

Great music and great acting

[Silvermojo · 10/10 · 5 August 2008]

I can't express how great this movie is! I was dragged to a screening by a friend and this film has inspired me to learn about punk. Learning the history of the Germs and Darby Crash was amazing. I wish that I had the opportunity to see Darby perform live. I think Shane West will go far in his acting career.

The drug use scenes disturbed me, but that was about it. Watching Darby's friends grieve for John Lennon the same night Darby kills himself was heart breaking.

The music in the film was outstanding and I understand that the ACTORS not the band played the instruments. My hat is off to Roger Grossman for pulling this movie together.

well done

[Kylissa · 9/10 · 9 September 2009]

I had never heard much of The Germs until I saw this film, although I am a huge fan of the DC Punk scene and punk in general. Shane West is now the lead singer for the Germs, which makes this film even more special and heartfelt. From the outsiders view (those sheep!!), punks always seem like they hate everyone and are antisocial, but this film captured the humor, innocence, and deep-felt anguish that resides in the heart of all true punks. The song Richie Dagger's Crime is one of my absolute favorite songs now, and I loved the scene of the studio session recording of it. This and The Filth and the Fury are my two favorite films about punk rock, this one is 100 times better than Sid and Nancy. Bijou Philips was awesome as Lorna Doom. The whole Germs vibe is so modern, it's hard to believe this scene is from the 70s.

excitement

[bloodyclover · 10/10 · 24 June 2007]

I am so excited about this movie and very glad to see Shane West in this type of role. This is absolutely amazing work. Everyone should see this film. It is also wonderful that a younger generation will get to see the history behind The Germs and learn about a band that should and will now have a chance to be recognized. This film is long overdue but very much welcomed by myself. The music is mind blowing and the acting is superb. There is so much realism with the scenes of addiction and the struggles the band went through. This is definitely a movie for my generation and many others to enjoy and experience to the fullest. It's made easy to enjoy by the great group of actors involved and their impressive work in this movie.

Germs you feel healthier from

[nixskits · 9/10 · 7 December 2009]

What director Rodger Grossman has finally achieved after some fifteen years of trying to bring this story to the big screen is worth the time of those interested in how the alternative music world was before MTV came along and changed things forever. I met Grossman after a screening of this in July 2008 at the Fantasia festival and the good man indulged the other questions I had about his creation after the Q & A session finished. Meeting a filmmaker after first seeing their work is not always the smoothest introduction, but Grossman's passion for his subject is infectious and made me want to learn a lot more about the Germs.

Shane West proves he's really the only man for this assignment, with what I think is the best portrayal of a music legend since Gary Busey in "The Buddy Holly Story". Darby Crash was probably a mystery to even those who knew him the longest. His approach to performing is kind of like those football players running through a paper image. He came along and the rest of the picture was left in tatters. The Germs were not well liked, to put it politely, by most club owners in LA. Darby's antics thrilled and annoyed audiences, depending on who one asks the opinion of. He died way too young and the passing was overshadowed by the biggest celebrity death of the post-Elvis era, John Lennon's murder.

The wonderful actors in the bandmate roles, Bijou Phillips, Rick Gonzalez and Noah Segan, did as great a job as only people in the shadow of an exhibitionist can (Lorna, Pat and Don must have wondered what the hell Darby had up his sleeve at any given time, if he'd end up getting the band banned or just yelled at and attacked). Their taking the time to learn how each musician played and then playing themselves is quite impressive in a lip sync era. West's anguished vocals conjure up the spirit of his role's model, like Busey did over thirty years earlier.

Director did his homework....

[jerrycrash · 10/10 · 10 March 2009]

Outstanding flick! I never met Darby, but The Germs have long been my favorite band and I've read everything I can about them. This movie was as accurate as a documentary, which I very much respect--the movie makers did their homework well. The acting was excellent, the cinematography, the storyline.... This has become one of my very favorite movies. I know I'm biased because I like The Germs so much, but it really was well-done. I went to see the movie with my wife (not a punk) and three teenage nieces (one of whom likes country "music"), and they all liked it a lot too. It is dark, so I'll grant that it's not for everyone--the Disney crowd may not appreciate it. But for most people, I highly recommend it!